I found a thread which asked a question and I answered it to the best of my ability. I have no wish to personalize this, and take the insulting/mocking tone you've chosen. Maybe that's not as reasonable as it seems to me.> JohnKSa So instead of fishing out the reloading manuals and quoting them the hottest loads I can find for my favorite cartridge, I try to answer with information that is actually applicable to a person who seems to be asking what kind of gun and ammo to buy. Somehow when someone asks for a basic comparison of two very common rounds it doesn't imply to me that they're preparing to embark on a reloading career. The 357 mag, on the other hand, had numerous loads in excess of 1350 for the 158 gr bullet. There are two loads shown that exceed 1000fps for a 38 Special plus P 158 and 160 gr bullet. To the poster who called the quoted Speer loads for a 38 a 357 Mag. I think the prejudice against the 38 is based upon a 2" barrel in a revolver vs a 5 " closed breech Nine semi auto, and that many reloading manuals don't even list Plus P 38's. Assuming equal adherence to pressure stats, though, the 38 should still win. I guess if we're talking about Factory loads we'd need some reviewer to have shot 5 or 6 major brands and loads in at least 5 or 6 handgun specimen's for each calibre. I've got 8 or 9 reloading manuals and can find only a couple Nine loads equal to most plus P 38's. End this debate until munk loads his plus P's in equal pressure to the nine, and wins handily. Mayo is correct- pick a plus P Nine and end this. Wrong- off the shelf a 158 gr plus p load in 38 is going to be at least 100fps faster than a 147 gr Nine. You could leave the Nine whining in the dust.īut even if you do not, and stick to most books, at Best for the Nine, they are almost the same in energy, and the 38 delivers a heavier slug. There is no earthly reason one could not properly load a plus P 38 Special in excess of what is book VERY safely in a modern gun like a Ruger SPO1. Now, I could flip around and find pet loads for each cartridge, but I think in general the 38 Plus P edges out the Nine.īut let's look at something else: 38 Special pressure was established for older weaker guns. And the Hornady shows a Nine with a 147 gr bullet at only 1000fps, well behind the plus P 38. Now, I'm not even going to do the math here- even when their energy is about the same the 38 makes it with a far heavier slug. And that is the fastest NIne heavy weight I saw in 5 or 6 reloading manuals. IN Speer number 11, I see a 38 160 gr soft point bullet at 1028 fps. 38 Special should be SUPERIOR to any Nine. Correct me if I'm wrong, slash my tires and besmirch my name,but a properly loaded.
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